Friday, September 7, 2007


I just finished reading the transcript of the new Bin Laden Tape. I have to write about my disgust for the two soldiers that he quoted. Apparently, two soldiers with the 2nd Infantry division, Corporal Joshua Lake and Specialist Michael Vassell, decided that they were going to get a little loose with their tongues to a foreign national, who happened to also be a reporter. During their interview, they said the following:

"We got grenades going off. We've got an IED blowing up your vehicle. And then you're expected to go back in those four to six, four to five hours and get, and relax to come back out and do another six hours," Lake said. "You don't have time, you just don't have time to do it."

"Because we have people up there in Congress with the brain of a 2-year-old who don't know what they're doing. They don't experience it," Vassell said. "I, I challenge the President or whoever has us here for 15 months to ride along, alongside me. I'll do another 15 months if he comes out here and rides along with me every day for 15 months. I'll do 15 more months. No, I - they don't even have to pay me extra."

Bin Laden goes on to quote them and use their testimony to further his cause. As a former Petty Officer in the United States Navy, I have the following to say:

Uniform Code of Military Justice, Sub-chapter X, Punitive Articles


Any commissioned officer who uses contemptuous words against the President, the Vice President, Congress, the Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of a military department, the Secretary of Transportation, or the Governor or legislature of any State, Territory, Commonwealth, or possession in which he is on duty or present shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.


Any person subject to this chapter who--

(1) violates or fails to obey any lawful general order or regulation;

(2) having knowledge of any other lawful order issued by any member of the armed forces, which it is his duty to obey, fails to obey the order; or

(3) is derelict in the performance of his duties;

shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.


Any person who--

(1) aids, or attempts to aid, the enemy with arms, ammunition, supplies, money, or other things; or

(2) without proper authority, knowingly harbors or protects or gives intelligence to or communicates or corresponds with or holds any intercourse with the enemy, either directly or indirectly;

shall suffer death or such other punishment as a court-martial or military commission may direct.


Though not specifically mentioned in this chapter, all disorders and neglects to the prejudice of good order and discipline in the armed forces, all conduct of a nature to bring discredit upon the armed forces, and crimes and offenses not capital, of which persons subject to this chapter may be guilty, shall be taken cognizance of by a general, special or summary court-martial, according to the nature and degree of the offense, and shall be punished at the discretion of that court.

Were I his superior, I would write up charges and read them their rights.

Loose lips sink ships.


josh said...

I see no traitor speak in there. plain and simple he is TELLING THE TRUTH. The president NEVER SERVED and does NOT know what is really going on there. If anything he is being patriotic saying that he would serve another 15 months for FREE on the stipulation that the president comes along to see what he has put our troops through.

CONGRATULATIONS to those troops who speak the TRUTH.

Sean said...

Josh, I'm afraid I can't echo your sentiments for a couple or reasons.

First of all, President Bush did serve in the capacity of the Texas Air National Guard during the Vietnam Era. I think everyone is familiar with the circumstances revolving around that, thanks to Mr. Dan "Slander" Rather.

Secondly, Josh, the solemn oath that these to guys took states the following: "I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God." (Title 10, US Code; Act of 5 May 1960 replacing the wording first adopted in 1789, with amendment effective 5 October 1962).

Please note, that no where in there does it mean they have the authority to break the rules of military conduct. In fact, they have sworn before their higher power and their fellow man to do what they are ordered to do. They even go so far as to agree to abide by the UCMJ (which is posted conspicuously at all military commands, and all recruits receive training on the articles in the UCMJ).

These men have forsworn their oaths, and violated military regulations.

I also think it is more than a little ridiculous to think that the President isn't in touch with what is going on with our occupation of Iraq, and the counter-insurgency operations in progress there. I certainly think that he is getting better information than the daily Kos is on what is going on. (darn it, I was doing so well avoiding ad hominem)

I do, however, appreciate your input Josh, and thank you for fostering more discussion on this topic.